Fund Manager Interviews

Mr. Amit Ganatra

Head of Equities, Invesco Mutual fund


Q1. As August series ended on a sombre note, how do you see September unfolding? It seems to be lacking cues and has begun on the lower end of the rollovers. What do you think will happen in the coming months?

We continue to remain sanguine on the arbitrage spreads. Reasons being:

  1. Retail/ HNIs continue to remain long on stock futures. Also, midcaps/ small caps have performed superbly inspite of the large cap performance being muted in Aug. Retail/ HNIs generally tend to pay higher roll spreads and more so when they are sitting on profits which is visible from the performance of non-Nifty names in the last few months.

  2. Mfs as %age of total open Interest is still at the lower end of the historical range. When this percentage increases, arbitrage funds tend to fight amongst themselves, thereby putting pressure on the spreads. As of Aug end, this %age was only 49% on August 30, whereas the range has been 45% to 65% in the last 2 years.

However, one should keep a watch on the corpus of the industry. If that continues to balloon, spreads will get impacted adversely in the future.

Q2. In the last three months, the BSE Smallcap index rallied by over 20%, and the BSE Midcap index by 17%. What is fuelling this rally in the small & midcap space?

Small Cap’s and midcap’s valuations had become attractive by March 2023 – as the set had undergone some time as well as price correction in FY2023. Also, earnings growth in India continues to be broad-based ensuring participation of a broader universe in the earnings growth. This twin aspect of continued earnings growth support and attractive starting valuations attracted large flows to the category, which in turn led to a sharp rally from lows.

Q3. What is the most significant change you've made to your portfolios between April and now? Is there any fundamental shift in terms of positioning?

In most of the funds, midcap and small exposure was increased in March and April due to the factors explained above. Otherwise, most of the other changes are specific to the mandates of the fund.

Q4. With the successful landing of Chandrayaan 3 on moon, the space industry is expected to grow in many folds. What are your views on this industry and have you made any significant changes after this news in your portfolio?

Space Industry is part of the overall Industrials space and most of our portfolios are already overweight Industrials for the last couple of years. Hence, no incremental changes were required on account of this event.

Q5. What are your thoughts on the latest passive trend? Is it just a herd mentality, or are investors truly following the passive approach?

Outperforming the benchmarks on a consistent basis is becoming difficult, specially in Large Cap space and hence, passive funds especially in large cap categories are attracting flows. However, passive investing also has its own perils and one should respect asset allocation as well as have a blend of active and passive to achieve long-term journey of wealth creation.

Q6. Are there any new emerging market trends that look interesting to you and worth betting on?

India is experiencing a strong broad-based earnings recovery largely due to the confluence of the following factors, and each of them are important themes for future:

  1. Strong balance sheets of Corporate India and the Banking sector is driving willing as well ability to borrow and lend – thereby driving credit upcycle in the country.

  2. Market share gains of organised versus unorganised in various sectors – especially in consumer space are driving strong outcomes for the listed universe at the expense of unorganised.

  3. Capex by the Manufacturing sector for export opportunities and import substitution is leading to revival of private sector capex in the country.

Mr. Vikas Garg

Head of Fixed Income, Invesco Mutual Fund

Mr. Vikas Garg heads the Fixed Income investment function at Invesco India and also serves as a fund manager for various debt schemes at Invesco India. He has over 15 years of experience, of which 13 years are in the asset management industry spanning across credit research and portfolio management. In his last assignment, Vikas was working with L&T Mutual Fund as a Portfolio Manager where he was responsible for managing the Debt funds in various categories, including the high yield-oriented funds. In the past, he has worked in the credit research team with companies like FIL Fund Management Pvt. Ltd. and ICRA Ltd. Vikas holds B. Tech & M. Tech in Chemical Engineering from IIT- Delhi, PGDBM from XLRI -Jamshedpur and a CFA charter holder- USA.


Q1. Concerns about inflation and rate hikes are resurfacing on both the domestic and global fronts. Is this likely to dampen the momentum of the Indian market in the near term?

Global monetary policies outlook remains challenging as growth / inflation data continue to give mixed signals. US FOMC paused in September meeting but has kept the room open for one more rate hike in 2023 and has also guided the market for lesser rate cuts in 2024. The domestic rate environment has also become relatively more challenging with uncertainty on the global backdrop, domestic inflation concerns, elevated crude oil prices and as monsoon deficit has worsened.

While the uncertainty on various fronts has increased over the last month, we believe Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) will maintain a status quo on policy rates in October and sound watchful on inflation trajectory. Inflation is expected to cool down October onwards and provide comfort to MPC to overlook the recent spike. MPC is also expected to decouple itself from the global rate hike cycle on the back of a comfortable situation on the external front with healthy Forex reserve. Recent news on the inclusion of India in global bond indices is also expected to provide positive momentum to rates as well as the currency.

Q2. How are you looking at the bond yields trending in light of the fact that it appears that the Fed is clearly focused on inflation and jobs right now, based on the data?

Captured in Q1 and Q3.

Q3. What has been your last purchase in debt market and where are you looking to exit completely because you think the valuation, or the template is now shaky?

We have been gradually increasing our duration in funds with every correction in yields. Domestic rates have surged back to almost March 2023 levels when the backdrop was much more challenging with expected global rate hikes, India’s relatively weaker external factors, and most importantly, almost a consensus view of MPC rate hike in April 2023 policy. For instance, 10 yr G-Sec has moved up from sub 7% level seen in June 2023 to now at 7.20% - 7.25% and is very close to the 7.30% - 7.35% levels seen in March 2023. We believe, India’s current fundamental situation is much better than that in March 2023, and hence looking to buy at such levels. Net fiscal supply in 2HFY24 is expected to be much lower than that in 1HFY24 which will also support the yield levels.

Q4. In August, the rupee has weakened against the dollar. What is weighing on it?

INR has moved in line with other Emerging market currencies against the general strength in USD. Various factors are at play. US FOMC’s continued hawkish commentary on policy rates with the likelihood of “higher policy rates for longer”, substantially higher fiscal supply in the US in June to Dec 2023 period, general weakness in major trading currencies like Euro, Yen & Yuan, and specifically for INR – the recent surge in trade deficit with higher crude prices & gold import. 2HFY24 is expected to be more stable for INR as global rate hikes come to an end and India see FPI inflows triggering in with inclusion in global bond indices.

Q5. Please comment on the quality or credit rating of your primary debt funds.

Invesco India maintains a superior asset quality portfolio across all the debt schemes. Eight out of eleven open ended actively managed debt schemes have been categorised in the highest asset quality bucket A of PRC metrics, which reflects a disciplined approach on always maintaining a high-quality portfolio. This helps in ensuring a highly liquid portfolio, which is critical for maintaining a well-diversified and an optimal portfolio mix while taking into consideration the regular inflow / outflow in debt scheme.

Q6. Looking at the current scenario, what should be the investor’s strategy? What kind of a fixed income duration should they lock their money in?

With the likely peaking of domestic policy rates and the recent inclusion of India in global bond indices, we believe India’s fixed income market provides an attractive entry point to investors, especially in the 2 to 5 year duration segment, as elevated yields are expected to deliver positive returns over inflation. Near-term volatility led by evolving factors, if any, is expected to be range bound and should be ignored. Over the medium term, as the market builds expectations on the rate cut cycle at some point in time, it will enhance overall returns through mark-to-market benefit. Having said that, active fund management is critical as uncertainties may emanate from domestic inflation, fiscal supply, and global backdrop, which may influence various yield curve segments differently. Credit environment remains healthy, and selective AA / AA+ rated exposure can be explored at fair credit spreads.

Disclaimer: The Equity outlook views are expressed by Amit Ganatra, Head of Equities and Debt outlook views are expressed by Vikas Garg, Head of Fixed Income, at Invesco Asset Management (India) Private Limited. The write up is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as an investment advice or recommendation to any party or solicitation to buy, sell or hold any security or to adopt any investment strategy. It should not be construed as investment advice to any party. The views and opinions are rendered as of the date and may change without notice. The statements contained herein may include statements of future expectations and other forward-looking statements that are based on the prevailing market conditions / various other factors and involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results, performance or events to differ materially from those expressed or implied in such statements. The data used in this document is obtained by Invesco Asset Management (India) Private Limited (IAMI) from the sources that it considers reliable. While utmost care has been exercised while preparing this document, IAMI does not warrant the completeness or accuracy of the information and disclaims all liabilities, losses and damages arising out of the use of this information. The readers should exercise due caution and/or seek appropriate professional advice before making any decision or entering into any financial obligation based on information, statement or opinion which is expressed herein.

Mutual Fund investments are subject to market risks, read all scheme related documents carefully.

Mr. Shriram Ramanathan

CIO - Fixed Income, HSBC Mutual Fund

Mr. Shriram Ramanathan oversees the management of more than Rs 30,000 cr in assets across various fixed income funds. He has over 18 years of experience in fixed income markets.

Shriram was managing the Global Emerging Market Debt (Asia) at ING Investment Management Asia Pacific in Hong Kong for about 5 years. His earlier assignments were with Zurich Asset Management Company in fixed income research and with the Treasury department of ICICI Bank, where he started his career in investments in 2000.

Mr. Ramanathan is a Chartered Financial Analyst and holds a Post Graduate Diploma in Business Management from XLRI Jamshedpur and an Engineering degree from the University of Mumbai.


1. The Fed raised interest rates by 25 bps in March, May, and July 2023. Fitch expects one more hike to 5.5%- 5.75% by September. How will this affect Indian markets? How should conservative to balanced investors react to such moves by the Fed? Suggest your views.

Since March 2022, all central banks across the world have moved out from extra accommodative policies introduced during covid and the focus has been shifted to addressing the very high inflation by increasing interest rates aggressively. In calendar year 2022 the fed raised rates by 425bps while this year they have raised rates further by 100bps to 5.25%-5.50%. The pace of rate hikes has reduced in this calendar year vs last year. In India too, the MPC (Monetary Policy Committee) increased repo rate by 250bps from 4% to 6.50%, while the overnight rates have moved up from 3.35% (reverse repo rate during Covid) to 6.50% (Repo rate now), an increase of 315bps. Increasingly the monetary policies across the world which moved in coordination since covid, both in terms of cutting rates and then raising rates, are now diverging to address the domestic growth – inflation issues. In India, the MPC and RBI may try and address the domestic inflation issues while keeping growth in mind through their policy tools.

2. The yield on the Indian 10-year government bond surged past 7.16% along with tracking the upward momentum for bond yields in the United States. On the other hand, the credit rating in the US was recently downgraded from AAA to AA+ by Fitch ratings. How can this impact bond markets in India now? Should investors consider some early warning signals? Kindly brief.

In the last 4-5 months, the US 10yr treasury yields have moved up by 100bps from a low of 3.30 to 4.30% while Indian 10yr G-Sec yields have moved up by only 20 bps from 7% to 7.20%. This has to do with the domestic orientation of the MPC and RBI, inflation broadly under control in the 1st quarter of FY 24. The bond markets in India will incrementally take cues from domestic factors like the runaway price increase in vegetable inflation lead by tomatoes and how it impacts other components in the vegetable and broadly on the food basket. The recent rise in prices of cereals and pulses as well as the impact of erratic monsoon is a cause of concern. The markets will be keenly watching the MPC reaction to this rise in inflation and the second order impact on broader inflation from this increase. Till now the MPC has decided to see through the one-off spikes in inflation caused by vegetables. On the other hand, the recent sovereign rating downgrade of US by Fitch won’t have much of an impact as dollar remains the reserve currency of the world and US is the largest economy in the world.

3. What are some medium-fiscal challenges that should be considered while investing in debt funds? Give your ideas.

In India, like in most other global economies, the central banks along with the respective governments came up with a coordinated monetary and a fiscal response to address the growth situation during Covid. While the monetary accommodation since then has been withdrawn and tightened in the last year and half, the fiscal policies in most economies are nowhere near to the pre-covid levels. The Debt to GDP ratio for all economies stands at the highest and now that interest rates have risen across economies, the incremental cost of funding this debt is posting greater challenges. While certain economies where growth is strong are well placed to address this challenge, many others are not and that will cause greater volatility both in the debt markets as well as the currencies. In India too the fiscal deficit to GDP ratio pre covid was at 3.5% while currently the target for FY 2024 is at 5.9%. However, in India, the growth is still resilient and we are one of the only major economies to grow above 6%. Also, our balance of payment position is much better bringing much stability to INR. The Government along with RBI are actively working towards bringing the spikes in food inflation under control. Considering these factors in.

4. HSBC Liquid Fund has given good returns to investors so far. What is your investment strategy behind handing this fund? Any important investment mantra you would like to give to retail investors for investing in similar or related categories of debt funds hereby?

HSBC Liquid fund has been investing in high quality well researched credits in upto 91 days maturities. It is ideal for investors to park their liquidity for shorter period. Investors can also look at funds like HSBC Ultra Short Duration Fund, HSBC Money Market Fund and HSBC Low Duration Fund with similar focus on high quality well researched credits and an investment horizon of upto 1 year.

 




Mr. Anupam Joshi

Portfolio Manager and Fund Manager - Fixed Income, HDFC Mutual Fund

1. What is the investment strategy being followed by the HDFC Corporate Bond Fund? How are you selecting the securities?

The fund predominantly invests in AAA and sovereign instruments. The endeavour of the fund is to capture the attractiveness of the spread between Gsec and corporate bonds, on a risk adjusted basis, while not compromising on the credit quality of the portfolio.

Before investing we tend to follow rule of SLR – safety, liquidity and returns, generally prioritized in that order. Security selection is done based on the credit assessment framework which inter-alia includes industry, company and financial analysis, parentage, management quality, etc. Further, we have our internal credit risk assessment model which is used to determine the exposure limits on each issuer and group.

2. India's external debt saw a marginal rise to USD 624.7 billion by the end of March 2023, accompanied by a decline in the debt-to-GDP ratio. How will it impact the interest rates hereafter? What are the considerations that investors can keep in mind?

Most of the external debt in India is taken by corporates whereas government exposure to foreign currency denominated debt is very limited. Further, FPI holding in Indian sovereign securities remains low (<2% of the overall outstanding debt). Since large part of India debt is locally funded, the impact on the interest rates are more likely to follow domestic macro-economic variables, till the time current account and foreign exchange reserves remains at comfortable levels.

Given India’s stable to improving macros as well as strong external sector position, we believe that RBI can maintain its focus on domestic growth inflation dynamics rather than overly worry about DM central bank actions. Our base case view is that of a prolonged pause on interest rates by RBI. INR on REER basis (Real effective exchange rate) remains in undervalued territory and thus, depreciation from here on appears unlikely. Overall, given the declining inflation (looking through the spike in vegetable prices), already done rate hikes, comfortable domestic liquidity -makes India a very attractive investment destination. Hence, from a investment perspective, these conditions should augur well for shorter to medium end of the yield curve on a risk adjusted basis and one may consider increasing debt allocation from a medium term perspective.

3. How do you anticipate the flows into debt funds over the next few months?

Considering debt mutual fund schemes offer a good liquidity profile to the investors with minimal impact costs, we expect business as usual for majority of debt mutual fund schemes. This hypothesis is also corroborated with visible improvement in the flows to debt schemes in Q1FY24, first quarter post the withdrawal of indexation benefits from the debt schemes. We have often seen that if compared on a like to like basis, debt Mutual Fund schemes’ s portfolio YTMs are generally at par or better than any other alternative investment opportunities without any compromise on the credit quality.

4. Large investors seem to be taking more interest in T-bills instead of long-term bonds as there is no clarity on the interest rate cycle. What is your take on upcoming interest rates with this regard? Where are your positions standing currently?

Over the past few years, AUM of the large long term investors like PF / Pension funds and Insurance has increased significantly. The aggregate holding in Government securities of all the above has increased and is now higher than Banks holding. Given the long term nature of flow to these investors, the bonds at the longer end have seen significant stability in past few years. As growth moderates and inflation trends lower, we expect the longer tenure performing well due to capital appreciation, apart from higher accruals over the medium term.

In the near future, we expect interest rates to trade within a narrow range with a downward bias. The above is in view of expectation of prolonged pause from RBI, moderating growth and slowing inflation, DM central banks being closer to peak and relatively balanced SLR demand-supply. Investors, on the basis of their individual risk appetite, can consider locking current prevailing yields in a phased manner or else they might be exposed to reinvestment risk. Hence, we are recommending investors to lock in for longer.

5. RBI expects CPI inflation at 5.1 per cent for 2023-24 (Q1 at 4.6%, Q2 at 5.2%, Q3 at 5.4% and Q4 at 5.2%. Are you in line with these expectations and why? Kindly brief.

Before the spike in vegetable prices, we were largely in agreement with RBI estimates. However, the sharp rise in veggies prices, we believe that Inflation in the near term can significantly overshoot RBI’s estimate in Q2 and thus, RBI estimates for whole year are likely to be marginally revised upwards.

#For latest riskometer, investors may refer to the Monthly Portfolios disclosed on the website of the Fund viz. www.hdfcfund.com

DISCLAIMER: Views expressed are of Mr. Anupam Joshi, Fund Manager - Fixed Income, of HDFC Asset Management Company Limited as of 25th July 2023. The current investment strategies are subject to change. The Fund/ HDFC AMC is not indicating or guaranteeing returns on any investments. Readers should seek professional advice before taking any investment related decisions.

MUTUAL FUND INVESTMENTS ARE SUBJECT TO MARKET RISKS, READ ALL SCHEME RELATED DOCUMENTS CAREFULLY.

Mr. Gopal Agrawal

Fund Manager - Equity, HDFC Mutual Fund

1. The year began on a turbulent note amidst concerns over unfavorable global markets. What can be various aspects to look forward to staying invested in Indian equity markets for medium to long term?

Markets can be volatile in the short term, driven by various events. Investors are best placed to consider ignoring short term volatility and continue building portfolios towards long term goals. Having said that, we have observed that any fall in markets due to global reasons have been a buying opportunity for a long investor, and this current market seems to have validated that trend.

In the long run, markets are largely driven by earnings growth, which in turn is impacted by a host of factors, with GDP growth being a key contributor. Growth outlook for Indian economy is strong. Reforms and measures by the Govt. over the past few years have strengthened the same.

Other factors that investors today could keep in mind are 1) valuations of Indian equities being lower from recent highs on account of rising earnings, 2) Recovery of the private capex cycle, 3) improving manufacturing competitiveness. In terms of risks, key risks emanate from slow global growth, higher global and Indian interest rates for a longer period of time, and other geopolitical risks.

2. What has triggered the sudden change in market sentiment in India?

Significant buying from Foreign Institutional Investors seems to be a key reason in the sudden change in current market valuations. Moderation in commodity process (reflected in falling wholesale prices), improvement in CAD, rally in treasury yields in anticipation of peaking inflation and interest rates, and underperformance of large other Emerging Markets led to strong FII flows for India. Here onwards, outlook for inflation and earnings are generally considered key for market performance, as valuations are above average. Continuing moderation in volume growth could pose risks to earnings momentum over time.

3. What has been your investment strategy in 2023 so far? Are you planning to sustain on the same or you have a different plan?

In general, the strategy has been to focus on stock selection with a style agnostic approach, wherein we look for opportunities across growth, value and turnaround stories. We have remained benchmark aware in terms of sectors and we don’t believe in taking major sectoral calls. The focus of research effort is on understanding the businesses, the key drivers, forming a view on the key drivers and understanding the risks.

As of date, we intend to manage our funds in a similar way as it was managed in the past, with a steadfast focus on risk management. As and when we find valuation excesses in certain segments of the market, we could make necessary changes with a view to protect investors capital during that phase.

4. Not many investors are aware whether their investments are in an appropriate type of funds. Can you let these investors know about the criteria that will help them select an ideal fund for them?

Choosing the most suitable mutual funds from a vast universe of options can be a daunting task for most investors. In the midst of this challenge, it's crucial to cut through the noise and distractions and focus on what truly matters: aiming for the best long term experience in terms of returns and risks, while aligning with individual long-term goals. To identify mutual funds with the potential for long term performance, it is essential to look beyond short-term returns. A strong track record spanning more than 15, 20 or 25 years reflects a fund's ability to navigate through various market cycles, geopolitical events, and crises. It demonstrates the fund's resilience and the effectiveness of the investment team's processes, risk management policies, and a sound investment philosophy. When investing for long-term financial goals, investors should ideally prioritize those backed by extensive track records.

5. Where in the market do you still think there is value, and where do you think valuations are stretched?

With markets trading at all-time high, there are lot of excesses that have been created in certain stocks/sectors. While the headline valuations are above their long-term average, there are still pockets of opportunities in certain stocks/sectors. At the broader level, we are positive across themes. However, one should be mindful of the valuations when one enters into a particular sector/stock. As stock returns are a blend of earnings growth and valuation de/re-rating, the starting valuations become very important and that could determine the future returns.

At the sector level, we are positive on 1) Consumer Discretionary – Within consumer discretionary, we are positive on select sectors such as autos and auto ancillaries, 2) Utilities – due to attractive valuations, low thermal capacity addition over the last 5 years and reforms undertaken over the last year are also positive for the sector, 3) Communication Services – post consolidation in the sector, pricing power outlook has improved, 4) Information Technology – normalization in margins have put an end to earnings downgrade in IT sector as top line growth drivers are structural in nature, and 5) Industrials: on account of factors such as government focus on manufacturing, shift in global supply-chain, and the China+1 theme. We are negative on Consumer Staples given the growth and margin risk and excessive valuations and materials due to risk of global slowdown

DISCLAIMER: Views expressed are of Mr. Gopal Agrawal, Senior Equity Fund Manager of HDFC Asset Management Company Limited as of 25th July 2023. The current investment strategies are subject to change. The Fund/ HDFC AMC is not indicating or guaranteeing returns on any investments. The statements contained herein are based on our current views and involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results, performance or events to differ materially from those expressed or implied in such statements. Stocks/Sectors referred above are illustrative and not recommended by HDFC Mutual Fund (“the Fund”)/ HDFC AMC. The Schemes of the Fund may or may not have any present or future positions in these sectors. Readers should seek professional advice before taking any investment related decisions.

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